Don't waste your money
"I bought 4 pairs of these, and fitted 2 of those to 2 differnent bikes, both with Hope 160mm rotors. Initially all ok, but after some rides I was getting a horrible 'gravelly' noise when braking at slow speed. Cleaned pads up and ok, but noise came back, this repeated. Since given up and fitted Shimano L04c pads (also from Bikeparts at a price close to these Vandorm parts at the moment), which are perfect, and no hassle even after hard use. Be aware that Bikeparts returns charge £4 'handling fee' to return the unused parts and their system does not allow proper reason for return to be given. It is not like I've tried to return the rubbish used parts either, I'm just sending back unused parts in original packaging. Don't waste your money on these pads and just buy some decent ones instead such as the proper Shimano L04c and also be aware that Bikeparts. co. uk returns process is uncompetitive."